Re: England vs EUROPE. different ways of treating bands on tour
The bigger clubs and some youthclubs are subsidized at times – at least in some countries (there is no such thing as “Europe”…) – but I don’t think that has much to do with it. The DIY punkbands don’t play in the big clubs anyway – and when they play the youthclubs, they’re not going to be put up in hotels or whatever anyway. DIY punkbands mainly play the squats or places that used to be squats (which mostly aren’t subsidized either) or pub rooms like over here. But reading through the post that started this thread – I doubt we’re really talking about DIY punk bands anyway….
Anyway, with regards to diy punk bands; they do mostly get some number of free drinks on the mainland – but it’s a lot cheaper over there and makes more economic sense. Also because when you run the place yourself – as opposed to having to it in a commercial bar – you obviously pay a lot less for it due to buying the beer in yourself… I did gigs in the OCCII (www.occii.org) in Amsterdam when I lived there and as it was/is a place run by us, we could give every band that played a few coupons for drinks. We cooked them hot food and we gave them a floor (!) to sleep on in someone’s house or squat. The only thing that’s different when I do gigs now in the UK is that I don’t give them free beer – as it is so expensive and I rather give them the choice to make the decision themselves (!) regarding what they want to spend the money I give them on (petrol/beer/?) – instead of taking of a large amount for beer from the start. They still get fed and they still get a place to crash. People who complain about any of this, have clearly never done anything properly and don’t know the real financial situation/world of organizing a gig/tour that’s actually fair on the bands and realistic with an eye on their finances.