Topic: Eco-friendly record sleeves?

I know pressing vinyl is far from eco-friendly but where possible I'd like to at least use recycled paper and whatnot, anyone have any idea of anywhere that does LP sleeves like this? I like the look and texture of stuff from Constellation Records, but I guess it might cost a lot more to do it like that. Even a relatively thin cover like the one for Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada would be great. Anyway, I'd like to know about it but can't find any websites telling me they do it. Any ideas?

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I have no idea about vinyl but I know about mainstream industry inititives to make DVD packaging "green". For example there's a lot of stuff going on where DVD cases are made with less plastic and using recycled paper instead of virgin paper for the artwork, as well as less packaging etc. Obviously cynics (me included) will see this as just token 'green consumerist' stuff, throwing some cash into labelling stuff 'green' while not radically change towards having immediate 100% environmental friendly/sustainable products but...

Comparably I reckon vinyls are much more eco-friendly than CDs and DVDs because vinyls are more collectable while optical discs are mega-massproduced (with not insignificant quantities being discarded when titles go out of retail, without being recycled properly etc etc)...

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http://www.stumptownprinters.com is worth a look. We got recycled card cd sleeves from them.

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I just came on here after a while to make exactly the same thread, Thom, haha.

Stumptown is good when you want to make CDs. I think it's not worth it if you order something that's bigger than that because the postage is probably quite expensive...

Anyway, I'm looking for a place where I could buy some kind of recycled cardstock paper that'd be thick enough to screenprint in order to make LP covers. Basically, the same kind of stuff as the Algernon Cadwallader LP cover (the Euro version) since I have to repress it during summer.

I know where to find that kind of stuff in France but I have no idea where to order it in the UK. I'm not even sure I know the right terms in English for it. Also, I don't want to order it in France because even if the paper quality was alright, the dudes totally messed up my order and were a pain in the neck to get in touch.

So yeah, any help for both Thom and I would be really appreciated, especially since the record he's about to put is REALLY good smile

More power to me.

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Of course, who knows how much energy was pumped into creating the recycled card in the first place? But anyway, I think most pressing plants or sleeve printers offer or will be able to source a brownish sort of card which invariably consists of recycled material (hence the brownness), and it probably comes in various thicknesses (or GSMs).

Unipress in Belgium did the Year Of No Light 2xLP, that looked sweet. I think that was on recycled card, but anyway the guys there can get it. http://unipress.org/
Handle With Care in Germany did a Wreck Of The Hesperus LP sleeve on recycled card that also looked great - http://www.handlewithcare.de/
Delga in the UK seem to be the main supplier of specialist media packaging, expensive from what I gather though, although I am probably going to have to go with them as they can print spot colours (for that screenprinted effect) - http://www.delga.co.uk/
These are only a few that I know of though.

Thom - maybe send Kranky an email and see where they got theirs done?

And thanks for the Stumptown link guys!

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Yeah I had a look at Stumptown and it looks like a good enough deal but having them flown over probably defeats the point of getting recycled paper anyway...

Good to hear you're repressing that dude, I missed out last time!

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It's definitely not the best time for me to do it but I kind of have to, I think. And it's fun anyway so...

I can trade you a copy of the DFA record for one of the AC once they're both out if you want smile

More power to me.

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Oh, didn't see your post Kunal, cheers!

To be honest, I'd rather avoid buying supplies abroad and having them sent here if I can. I like to keep everything as "local" as possible and it'd probably cost cheaper as well.

Stumptown is amazing though. Tons of labels get stuff done through them in the US and the Arigato packs are the bestest CD "cases" a DIY band can use if they're into screenprinting and whatnot.

More power to me.

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Rémi wrote:

It's definitely not the best time for me to do it but I kind of have to, I think. And it's fun anyway so...

I can trade you a copy of the DFA record for one of the AC once they're both out if you want smile

Deal!

I hadn't seen your post either Kunal... I can't seem to find any prices on those sites though, I guess I'll have to e-mail them when I get back from work.

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Remi - If you are based in the manchester area, these guys might be able to help you get hold of card locally.... http://www.marctheprinters.org/

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Dany, you are amazing. I exactly know where this shop is located (even though I never walked by it) and I'm definitely going to ask pop round there soon. Too bad they aren't open on weekends and close so early but yeah, man, AWESOME.

Thom, I suppose you can't really come in town during the week so if you PM me what you're exactly looking for, I can go ask them as well. Or you can just call them if you want.

More power to me.

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That is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, I had no idea there was somewhere like that in Manchester. I have band practice most Wednesdays so I'll just come into Manchester a bit earlier next week and pop in to see what they can do.

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Rad!

More power to me.

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marc the printers is awesome. Lee used to get most of the helpyourself manchester flyers printed there when we could afford the extra £10 or so to spend on flyers.

Also, though I don't know their environmental credetials, check this out - printed in Oldham I think

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/xalbert_roadx/kalbakken.jpg

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Went to Marc The Printers today and the dude there was really nice.

The thickest kind of paper they have is 300g. Feels pretty good in your hand but I don't think it's rigid enough to be used for an LP cover and I'm afraid the spine would break after keeping the record in the jacket for a while, unfortunately. I'm pretty sure I won't use them and will have to find another place to get my paper from. I think they'd be awesome as inserts or 7" covers though.

Oh, and I got quoted £83 for 400 SRA2 sheets...

Just thought I'd let people know...

More power to me.

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Anyone know of any places with the same set up as this in any other cities around?
Being able to save money by printing it yourself is pretty cool if you don't have the space/money to set up the screens at home.

Unrelated but we just pulled off free inserts for our lp. I stole the recycled paper from work and then my bandmate who works for a certain trabnsatlantic corparate stationary chain got his workmates to print them for free!

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Sam, that's awesome smile

If you see anything you like on the Marc The Printers website and would need some help to get some stuff from them or do things with them, don't hesitate to ask.

By the way, I also bought a screenprinting kit today so I can start having fun with the grim stone altar in the middle of our nekro basement big_smile

More power to me.

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marc the printers is ace.

we got 1000 shipping forecast leaflets on lush stock for something like £80.

opening hours do suck, mind. and guy once suggested i put the other load in a taxi to my house while i cycled with the rest of them. ha ha ah ha no. we just went back intermittently when work didn't clash.

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Hi guys,

Interesting thread, as I'm looking for blank sleeves for 12".
Stumptown has gorgeous products, but shipping to Europe cost a leg.

I'm just looking for the blank sleeves for 12" and probably for CDs (jacket cardboard).
White, or chipboard style...And eventually on specific other color such as dark red or blue...

I will probably do screen printing on it, such as Remi plans...

Any info on where to find this ?
Thanks.

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Jer, where are you from?

I did end up not using Marc The Printer and got some white recycled card through a friend who works in an art store. I paid £40 for 400 not-so-thin plain white sheets. I got them cut in 12" by 16", so I have a front cover and a 4" flap on the back. I like it better that way as it makes the cover look a bit less flimsy (in my opinion), is less annoying to put back in the plastic sleeve and I think it looks good too.

More power to me.

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Hi Remi,

I'm from France! ;-)

12"x16" is quite similar to the French A3, isn't it?

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It's 30.6 (I think?) by 40.6 cm, dunno about how big an A3 piece of paper is. I've never been good with this.

More power to me.

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A3 is 29.7cmx42.0cm, or 11.7"x16.5", annoyingly just short of 12".

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any clues about where to find any LP printers?

I'm still looking for some LP jacket, cardboard.

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I got some samples sent by these guys from the states

http://www.groovehouse.com/shop

good quality too