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The lyrics are mindbogglingly daft too.

HANGING OUT IN CENTRAL PARK, ON A SUNNY DAY, SKINNING UP A FATTY, CHECKING OUT THE BAAAABES

AND THEN I GOT FUCKED UP, I BEAT SOMEONE UP, I GOT MY DICK SUCKED

Preach, Harley.

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harley is a prize fucking cock.
sadly i can no longer find the story anywhere about him calling out a load of straight edge kids onstage and then after the gig, them all cornering him in the van and threatening him until he cried.

john joseph's book is great. i just ordered online in the end and it showed up in a couple of days.

i've heard talk of a london date for the spoken word thing but it's still in the works in the moment.
probably be the first weekend of august though.

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I think I might have to fly over for that. The book is so so good, nearly finished re-reading it.

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Never got this band at all. I heard all the hype & when I finally got round to hearing them I thought they were just metal crap.

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RobxT wrote:

Here's a link to the demo for those who haven't heard it (well it's the Before The Quarrel CD, which is the demo just with the track order changed a bit): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?titvn0ibndn

thanks!!

i am a sick man... i am an spiteful man. i am an unattractive man. i believe my liver is diseased.

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Age Of Quarrel is a pretty good record.  But this band are essentially overated.  I always think of them as the Motley Crue of hardcore.  ie, mediocre music with a colourful story.

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adamski wrote:

Never got this band at all. I heard all the hype & when I finally got round to hearing them I thought they were just metal crap.

What records have you heard? Regardless of whether you like it or not, you can't expect to describe Age Of Quarrel as "metal crap" and be taken seriously.

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I feel like Seekers of the Truth might be my favourite song.

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AOQ, BW and AO are all awesome records. One of my favorite bands for sure. Not sure I could pick a top 3 but I think Death Camps is my favorite song.

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killeatandbreed wrote:

The lyrics are mindbogglingly daft too.

HANGING OUT IN CENTRAL PARK, ON A SUNNY DAY, SKINNING UP A FATTY, CHECKING OUT THE BAAAABES

AND THEN I GOT FUCKED UP, I BEAT SOMEONE UP, I GOT MY DICK SUCKED

Wow. I think I need to check that record out!

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Also for anyone who has read them, how does John Joseph's book compare to Stinky Turner's "Cockney Reject"? I kind of imagined them to be similar somehow...

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Everyone - if you haven't already - should watch 80s teen film 'The Beat', featuring a band called 'The Iron Skulls':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9YLydmCML4

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N.G STATE OF MIND wrote:
adamski wrote:

Never got this band at all. I heard all the hype & when I finally got round to hearing them I thought they were just metal crap.

What records have you heard? Regardless of whether you like it or not, you can't expect to describe Age Of Quarrel as "metal crap" and be taken seriously.

you can if you're as old and grumpy as Adam.

to be fair, this was the prevailing opinion in the late 80s among a lot of HC types. I can remember myself that it wasn't till the demo got booted on that 10" that a lot of people I knew (and whose opinion I would otherwise defer to) conceded that they were 'pretty good, I suppose'. But it's not really surprising that they rubbed folk up the wrong way. They played the most metally form of hardcore around that wasn't crossover (another seemingly innocuous genre/period of time that seems par for the course now, but prompted as much heated debate and opprobrium then as MySpace fringecore has in recent years). And they are probably the first Hardcore Boy Band - they were put together by the much-reviled Chris Williamson of Rock Hotel promotions in New York ... and they signed to a major ...  and they had a homophobic illustration on their record. All red flags in the days that people used to care about that sort of thing.

Not me though. It's been in my Top 10 of HC records for 20-plus years.

You fill me with inertia ...

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killeatandbreed wrote:

The lyrics are mindbogglingly daft too.

HANGING OUT IN CENTRAL PARK, ON A SUNNY DAY, SKINNING UP A FATTY, CHECKING OUT THE BAAAABES

AND THEN I GOT FUCKED UP, I BEAT SOMEONE UP, I GOT MY DICK SUCKED

Preach, Harley.

This just made me gag on my Red Bull. Mind blowing.

Static Shock Records + Distro: http://www.staticshockrecords.com

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listin … dition=new is probably the cheapest you'll get it. Worth every penny though.

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Seriously, 'Revenge' is a fucking killer album. The melodic shit is so so good, amazing harmonies.

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I love the mags.   They either sound like  a mixture of discharge, motorhead and bad brains or simply a roided up victim in pain era AF.

Whilst there are some songs I like after AOQ (i.e CRUSH THE DEMONIC) - the only recordings that matter to me are AOQ demos the Age of Quarrel.   Catchy, raw, powerful songs with a unhinged and violent atmosphere - I love it.  The rawness of demos obviously makes them the superior takes, but I would still love the songs if I only had the LP.

The clockwork orange intro best intro tape of all time?

The breakdown in It's the limit  is my favourite NYHC breakdown of all time - this is the definition of both P.O.L.Y.S and I.M.R.  I don't dare listen to this when anybody else is around as my reaction to the power contained in this riff engenders a reaction so extreme and IGNORANT that my friends and family would probably never speak me again.

The bass intro to world peace (demo version) is the greatest song a bass guitar will ever make.

If anybody knows anything else about the don fury tracks on the recent AOQ reissue, (the other tracks recorded etc..) please give up the info - I need this badly.

The BEAT . The mag's appearance in this film is incredible - Ritchie underdog's 'my heads on fire' stagedive and JJ's flip must be the best stage dives to ever be shown on a cinema screen. 


P.S If anybody has a mode of ignorance recording I will pay money just to hear these .

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The only previously unreleased song I have is "You'll Be The Death Of Me" (?). It's on Live 85-86, apparently.

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Here are the 3 unreleased 1984 demo songs that were on the re-release of AOQ:

You'll Be The Death Of Me: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?hyomjdmw5mm
Hard Times: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dtkyggwyq5t
When Push Comes To Shove: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ijwntmmqmzn

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Upload king.

I'm not into that.

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N.G STATE OF MIND wrote:
adamski wrote:

Never got this band at all. I heard all the hype & when I finally got round to hearing them I thought they were just metal crap.

What records have you heard? Regardless of whether you like it or not, you can't expect to describe Age Of Quarrel as "metal crap" and be taken seriously.

Well, I'm a fan of pure HC rather than metal-inflected stuff. I seriously think bands like the Cro-Mags are anathema to hardcore with their macho attitude & leaden music. Seriously.

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If someone already mentioned it, I apologize but I'm in the league of ladies and gentleman who find the cro-mags a band that distracts from their sociopolitical views with their machismo. And it's not the sound of the music, I just think it's John Joseph. Now, you can argue it's not fair to take a bands music and pit it up against a single member's flaws, but allow me to refute in advance: They're musical content doesn't differ. There's people who appreciate hardcore for more reasons than it's sound and I'm one of those people. Even if I did enjoy this buff and bulky form of hardcore, I just don't think that the quality of their music is a justifiable means for being a dick.

I haven't read the book and I don't want to. Besides the fact that I believe Autobiographies can come out especially self-glorifying, it just seems this guy is no different than your lame anarcho-punk guy, like STZA. He's not good for the scene, his redemptive qualities are outweighed by his hostility. When your breath smells like shit, you probably shouldn't be using the megaphone, in laymen, I wouldn't care if he wasn't so outspoken.

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What exactly are his flaws in your opinion? I really never got peoples view of them as being overtly hostile or macho at all. Saying he's "not good for the scene" is equally baffling.

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Campbell wrote:

If anybody knows anything else about the don fury tracks on the recent AOQ reissue, (the other tracks recorded etc..) please give up the info - I need this badly.
.

I picked up the re-issue when I was in NYC last summer. The sleeve has very little info about the additional tracks, what else exists etc. Here's what it says on the paragraph about them in the insert

"The three bonus tracks are from the first ever Cro-Mag recording sessions at Don Fury's studio in Little Italy and were recorded even before the original demo. They have never been released and they give you a glimpse into their early sound and development. 'You'll Be The Death Of Me', 'When Push Comes To Shove' and the original recording of 'Hard Times' have been lost for over 20 years until just recently when the tapes were found".

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Evoltion of a Cro-Mag is such a funny book
even better when read by John Joseph. dude has a great voice/killer attitude