Actually the article/podcast is called “third wave Japanese Noise-Core” not “third wave Japanese Noise Punk”. To the back of the class!
I don’t consider any of those bands as being either Noise Punk or Noise-Core, to my ears they are Crust bands. The exception being Stagnation who released a split ep, demo tape and appeared on the Tokyo Sound System 2/3, all heavily influenced of Confuse. Though sadly their last ep (as featured in the podcast) seems to have taken a more crust influence sound and they have moved away from their earlier (and better in my opinion) sound. Cool, but nothing compared to their earlier stuff.
Same goes for the so called “2nd wave of Japanese Noise-Core”, as far as I am concerned all those bands mentioned are CRUST bands, with the exception of Gloom who made quite a special record when they made the recommendation of perdition 12”. To my ears bands like Atrocious Madness bear almost no relation to classics of the genre such as Gai, Confuse, Disorder or the Swankys, who all had superb song writing talent and put out some outstanding records with flawless production values.
If there ever was a “second wave of Japanese Noise-Core” then lets talk about Chaos Ch (Channel), Expose 82/Expose, Order…..
But I believe I understand the point that Stuart is trying to get across, that there are a new generation of “CRUST” bands in Japan that seem to be taking a more “psychedelic” approach to their sound. Good for them and any improvement/variation of the standard crust sound is good for me as it might stop me from falling asleep when listening to it. I love some of that stuff, some I can’t stand.
But what about the new generation of Noise-Core/Noise Punk bands, who are tipping their hats with respect to the above mentioned classics of the genre. Lebenden Toten (hard for me to believe that Atrocious Madness evolved into such an amazing band), Chaos Destroy, People, Lotus Fucker, Merciless Game, The Swindles, The No Futures and the list goes on ……No Crust, all Punk and lots of Noise!!!! If anyone exemplifies psychedelic noise-core then it must be the No Futures? Insane stuff!
Its really great that Shit-Fi made this podcast of these bands and has exposed such an obscure band as Toxic//Trash to a wider audience. Though whether the bands will agree with me is another story for another day.
As a side note, surely this is a forum where people can express their views and opinions without fear of personal insults. C’mon now kids, less bitching at each other!!! We all have opinions and are very fortunate that we are able to express them. Also we are lucky that we live in the affluent western world where we can obsess about obscure Japanese punk bands (though who knows where the current economic crisis may end, you may be trading your State Children flexi for a bowl of rice).
Smile, drink beer and listen to Confuse.