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Paris Is Burning- way more subversive than any punk doc could even hope to be.

i second this, pretty much my favourite film. its definitely on youtube somewhere too.

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Whale Wars.

Bloody hilarious.

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I know Detroit has been documented quite a lot but this is a pretty good and bleak documentary on it from last night, great if you like lots of post-boom urban decay:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 … r_Detroit/

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AlexN wrote:

Anybody like Adam Curtis? The guy who made Power of Nightmares which I thought was really good... you can watch It Felt Like A Kiss on his blog i've just discovered:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/i … ke_a_kiss/

Fuck Yes!

I love Adam Curtis films!  I keep sitting down to watch a new one on youtube and thinking "I'll watch the first half hour and then watch the rest later"  and then sitting and watching the full 3/4 hours in one go.  "Power of Nightmares", "The Mayfair Set", "The Trap"; all classics as far as I'm concerned.   His shorts have been easily the best bits of that charlie brooker Newswipe series.

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Jon Ronson stuff is pretty good, like Secret Rulers of the World.

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Good thread! Re: Herzog, I find his documentaries particularly interesting because they are so revealing of his exploitative role as a filmmaker. Like in Grizzly Man, the scene where he's telling Treadwell's ex about his death and describing the audio tape to her, and saying how he (Herzog) thought it best to destroy the tape and stuff cus it was too horrible... I generally find that he often puts himself, rather than the 'subject' at the centre of his own documentaries, when some of the best documentary makers are so great because there is such a lack of themselves in the picture if that makes sense.

I know it's a really obvious one, but BBC's Life series recently blew me away with the sheer fucking craft of it, such an amazing, beautiful series - definately the master of all documentary series.

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not sure if anyone caught any of the human rights film festival that was showing in london until friday. i was fortunate enough to catch ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE and THE RED CHAPEL (with Q&As) and would really recommend both. although fucking hilarious i can't decide if the red chapel is just totally 'wrong'. if you have an interest in cambodia and the khmer rouge regime then enemies of the people is an absolute must.

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Have there been any good docus that have come out recently? ive been a bit out of touch with them recently.

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I've heard good things about the Harry Nilsson documentary that came out recently. Anyone seen it?

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I saw the X documentary last year (X: THE UNHEARD MUSIC.) which prior to seeing it, I didn't even know it existed! It was X-cellent!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092137/

There was a good documentary on Anton Corbijn on telly recently which was made at the time he was making Control. Was pretty enjoyable, although there was too much Bono in it for my taste.

Also, not mentioned on here yet, but Spike Lee's 'When the Levees Broke' was great, if heavy going.

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Johnny wrote:
AlexN wrote:

Adam Curtis

Adam Curtis


The best.

his highness

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Ellie R wrote:

Good thread! Re: Herzog, I find his documentaries particularly interesting because they are so revealing of his exploitative role as a filmmaker. Like in Grizzly Man, the scene where he's telling Treadwell's ex about his death and describing the audio tape to her, and saying how he (Herzog) thought it best to destroy the tape and stuff cus it was too horrible... I generally find that he often puts himself, rather than the 'subject' at the centre of his own documentaries, when some of the best documentary makers are so great because there is such a lack of themselves in the picture if that makes sense.

I know it's a really obvious one, but BBC's Life series recently blew me away with the sheer fucking craft of it, such an amazing, beautiful series - definately the master of all documentary series.

Yeah, the exploiting thing can get annoying (in mostly american) documentaries.. they’re annoying when they try to be PC in crappy situations. The wife of Bob Flanagan  “will you stay sbumssive to me?” gets annoying while the dude can barely breath. Jonathan Caouette of Tarnation dude filming himself while calling the hospital (calling for the second time?) when hearing the bad news about his mother. Same for Grizzly man's rants in front of his camera about himself, the family discussions of Capturing the Friendmans that are so "liberal" you might think they realise they're so messed up some lengthy discussions and big words might fill up that gap. the same for the dude giggling in Theroux' documentary about paedophile's when he mentions he's in for daterape, another one trying to debate some paintin of young boy in tight ballete clothes is in a sexual pose or not, smiling in front of the crappy.  Theroux' constant selfreflection in basicly every documentary he shoots gets annoying also. He seems like a genuine nice guy, but nobody cares what he thinks god hates fags anyway - why doesn't he shut up and let the viewers decide for themselves? at least Klaus Kinski got so exploitive/annoying as hell (and entertaining at the same time) it got ridiculous as in My best friend. Not a bad word about Capturing the friedmans or Tarnation otherwise, but the exploitive thing gets  a bit repetive sometimes.

American Movie, King of Kong, Paradise Lost, Streetwise, Children underground, Childen of god are somehow more sincere...  Overnight was great, douchebag threw it all away which was fun to watch.

For fans of Tom Green/stupid stuff: Subway Monkey Hour is hilarious. which reminds me of tour documentaries... Against Me's not going home and Everytime i die's shit happens were fun also.

Dying to see the Staircase but I can’t seem to find it.. anyone knows where to buy or download these series?

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Saw "Listening to Judge Garzon" last week at the Cornerhouse Spanish Film Festival in Manc last week (I think its going to be out reasonably soon, possibly online due to legal constraints)

Incredible, just letting Garzon speak for about 90 minutes (cut down from a 6 hour interview), no cutaways, no dramatism,  odd and amazing. He didn't speak that much about the early parts of his career, there was some content about Pinochet, and a fair bit about his current legal problems.

http://berlin.cafebabel.com/en/post/201 … dge-Garzon

I'd just like to add to the Curtis echo as well. I've only seen Power of Nightmares, wheres best to go next? INFORM ME, COLLECTIVE.

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spy on the ice : http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wylng

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did anyone ever see the Wonderland about Frinton-on-Sea? A lot of the Wonderland episodes are good, but this one really stood out.

"Documentary series about extraordinary ordinary people. Frinton-on-Sea is a town that doesn't like change. The shops, the sea front and even the people haven't changed for decades. So when Network Rail announced it was going to automate the town's manually operated level-crossing gates, there was a call to arms. Filmmaker Marc Isaacs meets the people who have decided to grow old in England's most conservative seaside resort."

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Saw this at the Barbican last week:

http://vimeo.com/13787210

Pretty good!

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John Pilger. Documentaries That Changed The World - watch them all.

His more recent documentary, The War On Democracy, was also pretty good - even if you don't buy into the whole "cult of Chavez" thing.

Fugazi - Instrument. Best documentary to have on in the background while reading a paper on a Sunday morning.

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New Adam Curtis documentary about the internet on Tv on Monday. Should be good.

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Yup I'm very excited for that - my favourite doc maker!

Also a new Louis Theroux on Sunday

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super excited about the new adam curtis, man is great.

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I'm sure I posted this last night...

Watched the Creation Records film - 'Upside Down Movie' and enjoyed it very very much. Slowdive get a quick mention but for the most part it's Ride, MBV, Primal Scream, House of Love, JAMC and fucking Oasis that rule this film. Some funny moments and some cracking lines, but hey that McGee chap is a tosser.

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The Louis Theroux doc on Sunday was pretty terrifying.

Missed the Adam Curtis one last night, how was it?

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Watched catfish last night, really enjoyed it. The mother really reminded me of alot of people i work with.
Louis was great!

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I was really disappointed with that Adam Curtis doc last night. Seemed a bit all over the place.

Loved the Louis Theroux. I like how everyone just seems to warm to him. Incredible when he walked into that cell full of the most dangerous prisoners and just walked around saying 'Hi chaps' 'how are you?' 'nice to meet you'

I've been going back and watching a lot of the old Theroux documentaries, love the bit in the Nazis one where he won't tell them whether he's Jewish or not despite being threatened.

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it's a shame to hear that the Curtis wasn't up to much.. Planning on watching it tonight.

I saw the Theroux, and as always worried for his safety - truly shocking what he has revealed in the US justice system without over-intellectualising things and by just wandering into dangerous situations and being all polite.  23 inmates to one cell and they are just 'left to it' - so fucked up.

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