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whilst filing away the Torn Apart 7" i came across the Total Abuse EP....

I Deserve To Be Dead

Wake Up
Can`t get out of bed
I know what i`m doing wrong
I guess i don`t give a shit
I live in my head
I`m a fucking loser
Who deserves to be dead

Stupid Failure
Piece of Shit?

I find them pretty hilarious in light of their recent debacle.

As for this Alexanderb thing. Bloke obviosuly hasn`t read many books, or if he has he didn`t pay much attention. Go away.

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"You're that drummer of Total Abuse.... Matt it is, right?  Ass."

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alexanderb wrote:

I never did.

In every other black metal thread on vl-wee-wee you've upped, recommended or defended NSBM. Tit.

a thug changes and love changes and best friends become strangers word up

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I enjoy nsbm from a musical standpoint. much like some would enjoy the homophobic Bad Brains, the murdering Burzum, the PETA-obsessed Propagandhi etc. I don't exclusively listen to artists with the same political standpoint as me. that would leave very few artists, I'm sure.

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alexanderb wrote:

I don't exclusively listen to artists with the same political standpoint as me. that would leave very few artists, I'm sure.

I don't know, there's Wagner, Grand Belial's Key, Arghoslent and Brutal Attack for starters

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alexanderb wrote:

I enjoy nsbm from a musical standpoint. much like some would enjoy the homophobic Bad Brains, the murdering Burzum, the PETA-obsessed Propagandhi etc. I don't exclusively listen to artists with the same political standpoint as me. that would leave very few artists, I'm sure.

Yeah, obsesing about peta is just as bad as being homophobic, or a load of shite about NSBM.

Argument fail

If you're older than 17, I'll eat my hat and paint your house.

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Gloom wrote:
alexanderb wrote:

I enjoy nsbm from a musical standpoint. much like some would enjoy the homophobic Bad Brains, the murdering Burzum, the PETA-obsessed Propagandhi etc. I don't exclusively listen to artists with the same political standpoint as me. that would leave very few artists, I'm sure.

Yeah, obsesing about peta is just as bad as being homophobic, or a load of shite about NSBM.

what has that got to do anything with anything? that wasn't even his argument?!

are people here actually saying that alexanderb is a nazi for listening to nsbm?

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@Gloom I do not know what you are insinuating, but what I am saying is that loads of people listen to Bad Brains, and they don't have to suffer people calling them homophobes. nor does Burzum listeners get called out as fans of murder. nor do I think that all of Propagandhi's listeners share the same anti-human views as PETA. thus calling me a nationalist socialist for listening to Stella Polaris is seriously flawed logic.

I don't really wish to further comment on this, as it is well off topic. if you [i.e. the entire board, not just Gloom] want to tell me that I am a "Nazi" for listening to nsbm, or ask me questions about my relationship to nationalist socialism, or anything in this regard: I suggest you pm me or mail me.

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Notice that the only person calling you a Nazi is yourself. Got a proper chip on your shoulder. I think its daft that you defend and share NSBM. I think you're a shitty guy for doing that. And its not the same as listening to Bad Brains or Propogandi.

a thug changes and love changes and best friends become strangers word up

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årolilja wrote:
Gloom wrote:
alexanderb wrote:

I enjoy nsbm from a musical standpoint. much like some would enjoy the homophobic Bad Brains, the murdering Burzum, the PETA-obsessed Propagandhi etc. I don't exclusively listen to artists with the same political standpoint as me. that would leave very few artists, I'm sure.

Yeah, obsesing about peta is just as bad as being homophobic, or a load of shite about NSBM.

what has that got to do anything with anything? that wasn't even his argument?!

are people here actually saying that alexanderb is a nazi for listening to nsbm?

Good work on signing up to protect your mate.

It was part of whatever he was trying to prove, he bolted PETA onto the end of a sentance blathering on about Homophobia and NSBM. So it was part of his argument (if you could call it that).

@Gloom I do not know what you are insinuating, but what I am saying is that loads of people listen to Bad Brains, and they don't have to suffer people calling them homophobes. nor does Burzum listeners get called out as fans of murder. nor do I think that all of Propagandhi's listeners share the same anti-human views as PETA. thus calling me a nationalist socialist for listening to Stella Polaris is seriously flawed logic.

I don't really wish to further comment on this, as it is well off topic. if you [i.e. the entire board, not just Gloom] want to tell me that I am a "Nazi" for listening to nsbm, or ask me questions about my relationship to nationalist socialism, or anything in this regard: I suggest you pm me or mail me.

You're clearly well versed in a reactionary defense of your viewpoint. Only one person called you a nazi, but if you want to bring out the 'persecuted misunderstood' viewpoint, go ahead. I wouldn't call you a nazi, just misguided. Your comment about NS vs Capitalism was hilarious.

Oh and PETA Anti Human? Your world must be fun of laughs.

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davidd wrote:

Notice that the only person calling you a Nazi is yourself. Got a proper chip on your shoulder. I think its daft that you defend and share NSBM. I think you're a shitty guy for doing that. And its not the same as listening to Bad Brains or Propogandi.

I just love the way that his argument completely falls apart, if you even just prod it slightly. One attempt at National Socialism so far, sort of wasn't all that great. Loads of tries at capitailism, still fairly shitty, but I haven't seen Nick Clegg talking about rounding up all the Labour Voters, packing them off to Basingstoke and knocking them all off yet.

I'd love to see what justification he's using for that statement. I bet it's a barrel of laughs.

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the latter part of this thread is some next level bullshit
at least it's keeping the sub-vl-wee-wee shite in one place, but that's one too many...

settle down

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Good work on signing up to protect your mate.

doesn't really matter but thier i.p. numbers are indeed almost identical

I'm not singing for the future
I'm not dreaming of the past
I'm not talking of the first time
I never think about the last

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xdamienx wrote:

Good work on signing up to protect your mate.

doesn't really matter but thier i.p. numbers are indeed almost identical

His only other post was to give alexanderb some props on his crusade to put everyone elses music up for freeee

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Gloom wrote:
årolilja wrote:
Gloom wrote:

Yeah, obsesing about peta is just as bad as being homophobic, or a load of shite about NSBM.

what has that got to do anything with anything? that wasn't even his argument?!

are people here actually saying that alexanderb is a nazi for listening to nsbm?

Good work on signing up to protect your mate.

It was part of whatever he was trying to prove, he bolted PETA onto the end of a sentance blathering on about Homophobia and NSBM. So it was part of his argument (if you could call it that).

I did not sign up here to "protect" him, I signed up here because I thought this board looked like a better board than vl-wee-wee.

and he was proving that listening to a band with specific opinions does not mean that you have to have those opinions. I'm not sure if I'm maybe misunderstanding what you're trying to say, but alexanderb isn't saying anything about nazism and peta being equally bad, just that even though a band supports peta or has racist lyrics you don't have to support the members and their opinions even though you like and listen to their music.

our IP numbers are almost identical because we are currently sitting in the same room.

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Gloom wrote:
xdamienx wrote:

Good work on signing up to protect your mate.

doesn't really matter but thier i.p. numbers are indeed almost identical

His only other post was to give alexanderb some props on his crusade to put everyone elses music up for freeee

yay, vl-wee-wee bullshit here as well.

the only thing I said in that thread was that I liked the band that was being discussed. how is that giving alexanderb props on "his crusade to put everyone elses music up for freeee" (it's not like the band didn't want him to post it).

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I hope you piss andy or damien off and get banned tae fuck.

a thug changes and love changes and best friends become strangers word up

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davidd wrote:

I hope you piss andy or damien off and get banned tae fuck.

I haven't done anything to piss anyone off and I don't usually do that when posting on message boards.

but you don't have to worry, as I no longer see a lot of reasons to post on this board. it's starting to look just as bad as vl-wee-wee.

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yeah get to fuck. Seems like you should be playing Dungeons and Dragons and killing off 12 years old kids characters and thinking you`re "fucking nails".

bye

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årolilja wrote:
davidd wrote:

I hope you piss andy or damien off and get banned tae fuck.

I haven't done anything to piss anyone off and I don't usually do that when posting on message boards.

but you don't have to worry, as I no longer see a lot of reasons to post on this board. it's starting to look just as bad as vl-wee-wee.

I think it's more Alexanderb's hilariously bad opinions that's winding scotlands no.2 CZ vigilante up. This boards better than nearly anywhere else, but if you have a track record of being a NSBM apologist, and start trying to defend National Socialism, you shouldn't be suprised if you get a heap of shit dumped on you.

Nobodys going to get banned easilly, Andy said somewhere if he banned everyone who was being a cunt,, he'd have to ban nearly everyone including himself.

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I'm surprised this thread didn't get locked long ago.

Retention colours are the only true colours.

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Family Circus wrote:

I'm surprised this thread didn't get locked long ago.

Waiting for flos side of the story I guess. Which turned out to be worth it,

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i don't think yanks really 'get' fascism or exactly why it's such beef in europe, anyone remember that band plot to blow up the eiffel tower when they toured the u.s. dressed as nazi's but pussied out of it in europe? sure i heard something similar about slayer actually

i own records by bands who's opinions i don't agree with, but broadly speaking it doesn't disgust/offend me, there are odd exceptions but it's largely one or two out of hundreds and certainly not the main focus of whatever band, nevermind thier entire subgenre. all this gobby suburbanite punx riding nsbm/far right noise stuff just seem like kids trying to rebel and show how badass they are, like slipknot for half arsed philosophy undergrads

I'm not singing for the future
I'm not dreaming of the past
I'm not talking of the first time
I never think about the last

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årolilja wrote:
davidd wrote:

I hope you piss andy or damien off and get banned tae fuck.

I haven't done anything to piss anyone off and I don't usually do that when posting on message boards.

but you don't have to worry, as I no longer see a lot of reasons to post on this board. it's starting to look just as bad as vl-wee-wee.

only since you and your mate turned up. common denominator?

settle down

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xdamienx wrote:

i don't think yanks really 'get' fascism or exactly why it's such beef in europe, anyone remember that band plot to blow up the eiffel tower when they toured the u.s. dressed as nazi's but pussied out of it in europe? sure i heard something similar about slayer actually

i own records by bands who's opinions i don't agree with, but broadly speaking it doesn't disgust/offend me, there are odd exceptions but it's largely one or two out of hundreds and certainly not the main focus of whatever band, nevermind thier entire subgenre. all this gobby suburbanite punx riding nsbm/far right noise stuff just seem like kids trying to rebel and show how badass they are, like slipknot for half arsed philosophy undergrads

Your second point is exactly what I was trying to say (badly) a few pages back. The point being that I'd see no contradiction with listening to somebody coming from a different viewpoint as long as the lyrics weren't downright offensive, or excessively distasteful. I listen to some crimethinc/y type stuff but have to draw the line with Stza sometimes as much as I love LOC/CV.

There is definately a bit of a trend for kids here getting out of metal/punx to start 'english folk' type black metal, with loads of borderline statements, sunwheels etc. There was a Wolves in the Throne Room gig here where some of those types brought along a load of sketchy pamphlets, and tried to defend their stances with long winded weak circular logic on our local idiot board afterwards.

It's more that when people start to defend or apologise for shitty attitudes that it sticks in the throat a bit. I was ragging on Bad Brains a bit back, but nobody was trying to apologise for what they were saying in those albums at the time.